mystraline 2 days ago

"Nihilistic Violent Extremists (NVEs) are individuals who engage in criminal conduct within the United States and abroad, in furtherance of political, social, or religious goals that derive primarily from a hatred of society at large and a desire to bring about its collapse by sowing indiscriminate chaos, destruction, and social instability. NVEs work individually or as part of a network with these goals of destroying civilized society through the corruption and exploitation of vulnerable populations, which often include minors.”

The way this is written is terroristic in nature. For example, "sowing indiscriminate chaos, destruction, and social instability", there is nothing in there that is an express crime. Its all 'feels' kind of descriptions. Again, evencalLegfeels like this, but it'd never be used that way.

However, choose a local mutual aid group. The point behind them is social instability at the government level, and how to route around that for group stability. I could easily see a mutual aid group being called an NVE.

And really, the much older term all of this talks about is really "undesirables". It all goes back to whom the gobernment doesn't want, and how to de-person-ize them, and then do whatever with these non-persons.

overu589 2 days ago

I have to point out this is a part of your thought control struggles.

People are responding to the voices in their heads, and are intelligent enough not to let on that there are voices, in their heads.

These are petty pranks compared to what goes on off stage. These “represent” that power is a fickle and inconsistent thing.

esbranson 2 days ago

Massive breakdowns in "community" psychiatric systems while simultaneously illegalizing expansion through "certificate of need" processes. (If you've ever heard someone deflect with the word "beds", that CON process is what they refer to. "More funding" is misdirection.)

I think it notable the people mentioned come from Democratic Party strongholds. New York is attempting to rollback some of this and reemphasize more involuntary institutionalization. It's time to get more people off the street and out of the jails and into padded rooms.

Absolutely nothing to do with Trump or Elon, other than the feds are also having to deal with the mess the states are making. IMO yet another article that does not inform, but is really just another attempt at hate- and fearmongering.

  • overu589 2 days ago

    I challenge what you call sane, sir.

    Convention, normalcy, and polite society are all very fine, yet civilization rests upon certain demands.

    You are not far off, I do not criticize your intent, merely that as a denier of the “exogenous”, I wonder if you will be so hardline with your own when their treachery or corruption is made bare.

    If you will say with me, “an incorruptible righteous rule of law” will save us, we are bondsman(and women) to a common critical cause.

    “Them, they, and those other” however are not the threat to our lawfully protected free world. Integrity, and principle, and a continuity of “devotion” (human sacrifice) pays for civilization or it doesn’t.

    Civilization will always have its rabble and unrest. Mitigating savage powers with a “civilizing accord” is the whole foundation of any.

    • esbranson 2 days ago

      This seems like a "mad pride" argument mixed with deflection.

      Crazy people are othered, I think that's a safe human instinct.

      Claiming treachery and corruption is, well, irrelevant. Misdirection.

      • overu589 2 days ago

        How calculated.

        Test:

        A man’s life who purgers before law is forfeited to law.

        Those who you protect know all about the voices in our heads, it is those who deny or refuse to believe who are also a danger to us all (who’s lives are propped up by flimsy deniable truth.)

        • esbranson 2 days ago

          More deflection. Crazy people are a bigger threat than the corrupt. It's not a one-or-the-other thing, but to be more concerned with corruption-on-the-street than lunacy-on-the-street is ultimate materialism.

          • overu589 2 days ago

            I’ve lived on the streets “white boy”, I know what passes for crazy and corrupt. (Cute sarcasm intended.)

          • overu589 2 days ago

            You need an enemy who isn’t you.

            I get it.

            Btw, I’m not an anarchist or liberal, I am a hard liner. Simply not your hardliner.